Wolfgang Tremmel - 2022-10-25 16:02:04
Will add once I have corrected a few mistakes

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Paul BD - 2022-10-25 16:09:37
China PRC has already blocked it along TLS 1.3. :)

Paul BD - 2022-10-25 16:10:25
Ah yes, they only blocked ESNI yet.

Shane Kerr - 2022-10-25 16:10:29
Makes sense. Moving control out of the application to the endpoint is an anti-goal in their case. :-)

Shane Kerr - 2022-10-25 16:10:38
Out of the network, I mean.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:11:31
Still sounds evil for pulling network stacks into the applications. I fully understand the advantages for faster changes and some security issues, but still...

Shane Kerr - 2022-10-25 16:13:20
Why is running network code in a different layer of the software stack evil though?

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:14:01
but it is a clear completion from google's perspective. Having large contents AND the apps with Android and Chrome, they could test it on both ends simultaneous.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:15:32
test it: "" that's a quic check site if your client supports it.

Paul BD - 2022-10-25 16:15:54
You can also use

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:16:59
looks good: Total requests: 3000
Success with QUIC: 3000

Paul BD - 2022-10-25 16:17:42
I wish it also used IPv6.

Robert Scheck - 2022-10-25 16:21:42
Doesn't pulling network stacks into applications bear the risk of having even more (broken?) implementations, because each application tries to enhance it or to develop an own "better" (e.g. smaller, more optimized) implementation of it?

Markus Zeilinger - 2022-10-25 16:23:08
I would definitly agree with Robert!

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:30:50
So Chrome lacks new Quic-code? LOL..

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:33:50
Spy?? thanks Brian..

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-25 16:35:16
I wonder how really fast transmissions perfom with QUIC

Andrew Campling - 2022-10-25 16:50:24
+1 to Robert's point. It also risks disregarding any user / device owner / network settings, leaves open privacy violations etc.

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