Ivy Agbo - 2022-10-26 08:51:46
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Jordi Palet Martínez - 2022-10-26 09:23:58
@Angela, no offense !

Jordi Palet Martínez - 2022-10-26 09:25:02
@Angela, yes all the APNIC proposals will get a new version soon

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 09:32:58
Is the logic correct: if routed = used? if not assigned = not shown as used?

Ivy Agbo - 2022-10-26 09:33:47
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Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 09:37:25
@Ivy, sorry true.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 09:46:06
+1 Brian. it's very fundamental

Erik Bais - 2022-10-26 09:46:40
Elvis .. good point ..

Erik Bais - 2022-10-26 09:47:07
@brian .. yes .. this needs more discussion on the ML.

Elvis Daniel Velea - 2022-10-26 09:50:00
there’s no stick to the policy, once the carrot (allocation) is handed out, the assignment is created only if the user wants it in its name or if the LIR wants to delegate some maintenance… and only on request

Brian Storey - 2022-10-26 09:52:00
Cheers. I've only just taken on responsibility within our business for our assets with RIPE, so I'll be taking a look in to this discussion.

James Kennedy - 2022-10-26 09:52:42
@Elvis, that's been my experience too. Since no additional allocations can be attained, LIRs already register what they want re: assignments. Which is not in alignment with the registration policy

Elvis Daniel Velea - 2022-10-26 09:55:30
so, I do not understand why this proposal is mixed with other stuff.. this fixes a problem, maybe not the problem the DB TF has noticed, but still fixes a problem nonetheless :)

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 09:58:48
end users are not supposed to have networks - LOL

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 10:00:47
yes, lets keep beating a dead horse. v4 is not scalable for new deployments anymore. Even a 2 year prospective makes people hope to get on with v4..

Ivy Agbo - 2022-10-26 10:07:20
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