Hans Bakker - 2022-10-26 14:28:02
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André Melancia - 2022-10-26 14:28:11

Bijal Sanghani - 2022-10-26 14:32:12
Hi everyone, welcome to your favourite wg :)

Rob Evans - 2022-10-26 14:33:58
We're there in spirit, if not in person.

Sergiy Kus - 2022-10-26 14:52:25
Hi Everyone! I represent "Internet Expres" ( from Ukraine. Registry ID ua.expres. I agree the solution of temporary frozen any IP transferring from Ukraine, including destressed territory.

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 14:54:06
Sergiy, please go to Q&A tab

Sergiy Kus - 2022-10-26 14:55:03
Thanks, Sergey.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 15:08:50
Wow for a second I thought he said "discord".

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 15:09:00
I was really scared!

André Melancia - 2022-10-26 15:17:08
Very relevant topics, thank you!

Maryan Kasko - 2022-10-26 15:21:10
Hi Everyone!
I`m director of KIM LLC ( from Ukraine. Registry ID ua.kalush. I agree too the solution of temporary frozen any IP transferring from Ukraine, including destressed territory.

Brian Nisbet - 2022-10-26 15:22:00
If you wish anything to be read out after the presentation please put it in the Q&A tab.

Brian Nisbet - 2022-10-26 15:22:29
However, also, the more permanent way of expressing support is the mailing list or contacting the NCC directly. Thanks.

Alex Baryshev - 2022-10-26 15:23:45
Any russian aggression must be stopped !

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 15:31:12
@Alex: fully agreed, but how? This is a technical forum.

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 15:39:30
Would you finally understand the difference between RIPE and RIPE NCC? No one is interested in list of yours LIR reg-IDs

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 15:42:54
Q: Is then Taiwan also a permanent area of dispute? I guess not.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 15:43:26
Or Cyprus.. ask Greeks and Turks. The viewpoint may differ here massively.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 15:46:40
+1 Eric

Serg Galat - 2022-10-26 15:47:47
Sergey, if you not interested - just do not read

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 15:51:48
+2 stefann

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 15:53:05
Each case will be different and there should not be a generic way to deal with them.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 15:57:58
Yeah yeah, everybody is nice nobody thinks about money.

Kurt Kayser - 2022-10-26 16:01:33
heartbreaking.. very nice talk!

André Melancia - 2022-10-26 16:01:37
Thank you for your words. :)

André Melancia - 2022-10-26 16:07:07
+1 Jan

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:07:19
All of this is because of IPv4.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:07:34
So I would recommend to terminate IPv4. :)

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 16:07:36
Paul... and hardware and many more

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:07:59
That's an excuse, any crappy 20 years proprietary hardware is capable of doing v6.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:08:06
It's incompetence and laziness.

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 16:08:53
No the age of hw doesn't matter. Companies and subscribers are being stolen as well.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:10:06
But that has nothing to do with IP resource transfers.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:10:12
There is nothing that can be done about it.

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 16:10:58
While a country/government can protect their citizens and business by sending the armed forces, any IPs couldn't be protected this was

Sergey Myasoedov - 2022-10-26 16:11:13

Brian Nisbet - 2022-10-26 16:13:40
Kurtis has closed the mics, which counts for Meetecho too. If you have further comments or questions, please send them to the NCC Services mailing list. Thank you.

Serg Galat - 2022-10-26 16:19:08
Sergey, what do you mean? About country do you about?

Serg Galat - 2022-10-26 16:19:37
*What country do you about?

Vitaliy Tsvyetkov - 2022-10-26 16:24:01
We are against the initiative to ban all the transfers of IP addresses from Ukraine! We want to have this source of funds to keep our network running and pay salaries! Please note, there are NO CONSENSUS about transfer block in Ukrainian community, and those people on the meeting does not represent a majority of Ukrainian LIRs, they represent only themselves.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:24:32
Yes, also Ukrainian LIR should be free to move out of Ukraine, including to move to a country that is not Russia.

Paul BD - 2022-10-26 16:25:18
Besides, one has to be a fool to think that the theft cannot be orchestrated by Ukrainian authorities.