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RIPE 85
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Newcomers session
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Monday, 24th October 2022
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11:30 a.m.

MIRJAM KUHNE: Good morning everybody. I think this is on, yes, you can hear me. This is an awkward room, hello over here! And over here, and in the middle, and we have one other RIPE meeting before where we had a really wide room, it's kind of hard for the speaker to address the audience, but ‑‑ ‑‑ apparently the audio is really bad. There is an echo, people cannot understand me very well, is there anything we can do about that? I will try to speak slowly in any case.

I don't hear that here. I hear myself okay.

This is the Newcomers Session, I think many of you are newcomers, I see some familiar faces.
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Now the stenographers can't hear me any more. Something has changed for them. This is the Newcomers Session of the RIPE 85, testing the audio, I hope you can fix that!.

Great. This is the first session we're doing IPv4 it this week so it's great we are having some tests. Welcome to RIPE 85 in Belgrade. Welcome to this Newcomers Session, some of you might have participated in, at the online Newcomers Session last week, or like two weeks ago, there was organised by the RIPE NCC. So there will be some overlap in case you have participated but this is of course great to see you here in person, and you also have a chance to ask questions and so we'll have two parts of the presentation here, I will do the first one, my name is Mirjam Kuhne, I am the Chair of the RIPE community, and then the second part of the presentation will be done by Hans Petter Holen, who is the Managing Director of the RIPE NCC, we'll tell you a little bit about the difference between the organisations.
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If this is your first RIPE meeting, then there are ‑‑ the first one took place in '89, it's a long time ago, we used to have three meetings a year but now for landing time we are doing two meetings a year, which seems enough. As I said, I am mire yes, ma'am Kuhne, I am the Chair for two years already and before that I worked at the RIPE NCC as a community builder and also at organisations in ISOC for instance, and I have been kind of in this community for a long time, and I have done a lot of community building work and also supporting the former RIPE Chairs, and apparently my first RIPE meeting was RIPE 19, as I said to you on the slide, which is a long time ago.

That's my e‑mail address if you want to find me during the week. You can send me a mail but I also try to be available and hang around at the meet and greet desk as much as possible. I would really like to hear from, specifically from newcomers, because, I mean, you are so valuable for us as a community and we need new people in the community and I am really interested to hear from you how you like it, what you are missing, what you are expecting, any topics you would like to bring up and so forth. So please don't hesitate to reach out to me or to the RIPE Vice‑Chair, Niall O'Reilly, who is also here with us, he is here in the front, his first RIPE meeting was RIPE 3, that's a long time ago, and he is also been involved in this community for a long time and he has been co‑chairing in Working Groups in the RIPE community and he is from Ireland and he used to work there in the networking area there and this is his mail address if you want to reach out to him during the week.
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Talking about long time ago, just kind of as a joke in here, this is an old machine. I never used one of those, I had an Atari as my first computer not one of those, but maybe more interesting the one on the right is actually the European IP network at the time in Europe in early nineties, and you can really read this and you don't have to, but most of the network boxes there, as you see, most of the networks were academic networks at the time and at the RIPE meetings you would have an update, which new network was added to the Internet, to the IP network in Europe and it was quite exciting and we would update and publish these maps, somebody would take the task on to draw or to produce these maps and then at some point they became a bit too unwieldy and complex and we didn't do that any more. But we had also an IP connectivity Working Group at the time which was basically just updating the community on the world of the network.
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There is already a little test for you in here. Do you know the difference between the RIPE and the RIPE NCC?
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No hands. Oh we have a lot of work to do there. The oldies, they know that. That's good, if you don't know the difference, we are here to explain it to you and it's also confusing. So we'll go into a bit of detail there.

Here is a summary, or like the two organisations side by side, so the RIPE community was formed in 1989 as an open community, anybody can join, just like now. It's open to all, and it was formed to, you know, support the IP networking at the time, support Internet coordination and technical coordination of networking.

And it still does that today. The main mission really is information exchange, technical coordination, and also policy development related to the scope of RIPE ‑ for instance, IP address distribution, routing policies, database registrations, things like that. So that's the main mission of the RIPE community.

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As you will see, there are many more Working Groups also with different topics here.

On the other hand, we have the RIPE NCC which was formed initially in 1992 as the secretariat for the RIPE community, and then quite quickly it also became the Internet ‑‑ the Regional Internet Registry, handing out IP addresses to networks in this region, because, you know, the networks in the region, and I showed you earlier there were quite a small number at the time, but as a community we had already trust in the secretariat in the RIPE NCC, and so we trusted the RIPE NCC also to perform that task.

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So the RIPE NCC was then quite quickly set up as a membership organisation, still today it's supported financially and, you know, administratively by the members, and the reports to the members but it still has a huge task or function for this RIPE community as the secretariat. It's run by NCC staff. You will see many of them at this meeting, because they are there supporting the RIPE meeting, and there is an Executive Board which is elected by the members and it provides services to its members but also to the community at large.

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And what's also interesting and that may be confusing sometimes, it takes the policies that are developed by this open RIPE community and implements them and basically makes their members to adhere to these policies, and Angela there will say a little bit more about the policies later on.

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So, the RIPE community. I'll come back to that.

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There are 12 Working Groups at the moment, you'll see here all the topics and maybe you have had a chance before the meeting to look on the website and see what's interesting for you, which ones of the Working Groups you would like to participate in, with the agenda, maybe look at the archives of the mailing lists, and, you know, make a choice of what you want to participate during the week.

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We still operate mostly on mailing lists, which might be a little surprising especially for newcomers, but it was from the beginning, and maybe it still is today, a really good way to archive your communications and your decisions that you are making and so there is a lot of archive. You can read all the archives from all the mailing lists throughout the years, and find out what's been discussed in the past. And we are also experimenting with some other communication channels, you will hear more about this during the week, but, as a first step, I would encourage you, if you haven't done so already, subscribe to the Working Group mailing lists but also to the RIPE list. That's the kind of overarching mailing list that we use to make announcements about, you know, any general RIPE activities, but also during the week, you will see a lot of mails here about what's going on in the meeting.

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Let's dive into a little bit more into the RIPE 85 meeting this week.

So, you will see online, you'll see the meeting plan here on the slide. We don't have to go through everything. But, roughly, today and tomorrow will be Plenary sessions which are organised by the Programme Committee and they are also elected by the community, and there is also Plenary sessions on Friday.

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And then in between, like, mostly Wednesday and Thursday, there will be Working Groups sessions of all the Working Groups I just showed you there, mostly in parallel, so you have to choose. There is one Working Group, the RIPE NCC Services Working Group, which is not parallel with anything because that's really a good link between the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC, that's where the RIPE NCC staff reports back to the community and where the community can give feedback to the RIPE NCC about the services, which is then followed by the RIPE NCC General Meeting, which is then open to RIPE NCC members. But you see there is a really tied kind of link and relation between the two organisations.

And there are also birds of a feather sessions on Monday and Tuesday in the afternoon and evening, if you don't know what that means, that's basically a bit more of an informal discussion, someone comes up with a topic. Birds of a feather flock together ‑ that's where it comes from, you know, it's kind of people with the same interests come together discussing a topic. It's not a working group, it's not something formal; it's just to, you know, talk about something new maybe.

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There are a number of ways you can participate. Here in the room, but you also have ‑‑ you probably have some people online on Meetecho, so, you can ask questions directly at the microphone, but you can also use your online app Meetecho, I think we also have a little QR code on the back of our badge, I don't know if this has been explained to you, that's basically to log into the online Meetecho app if you wanted to use that.

There is a question‑and‑answer button online in the Meetecho for the Meetecho participants, it would be great if you can put in your affiliation so we know who you are, also when you come to the microphone in the room, please state your name and your affiliation so people online know who is speaking and who is at the microphone.

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And then we also provide, in the Meetecho, a chat function, and then maybe something if you don't use the ‑‑ even if you are in the room, if you don't use the Meetecho app to participate and ask questions, you can still use the chat maybe online, that might be a good way for you all to get to know each other and see who else is there and, you know, see what's being discussed kind of on the side.

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It can be a little distracting but it's also fun sometimes.

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And why would you do that? Why you are here and why are we doing this and why are we so happy to see so many of you here? We really like you to engage at the meeting and speak up and also use this opportunity to meet, you know, the more experienced participants if you go, there are a lot of people here with a lot of expertise and experience in networking, but, on the other hand, we also like to hear from you because, you know, we need to understand what issues are at your ‑‑ that bring you here, and we'd like to hopefully address those as well.

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So, to come back to the programme. This is the Programme Committee at the moment, they are kind of around, there are a couple of them sitting here in front of me, I don't know if there is anyone else in the room. They are mostly responsible for the Plenary talks, so the one on Monday, Tuesday and on Friday morning and they are elected throughout the week and there are also, I think, two seats available, and this time, and you can elect them also. I don't know definitive a slide on that. But ‑‑ yes, they are, as I said earlier they are Plenary and they are Working Groups and Working Groups are chaired by the Working Group Chairs and the Plenary, the content is chosen by the Programme Committee, members of course, they are relying on good content submissions so I would like to encourage you all to consider maybe next time, you know, submit something that you would like to present or discuss at the meeting.

We also have both the Working Group Chairs and the Programme Committee is rating the talks. So there is a feature on the website that you can, you know, rate the talks and give a comment and say if you like a talk or if you have any improvement suggestions.

And you can even win a prize when you do that.
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I'm just going to list a few sessions that are kind of in parallel, maybe not necessarily on the meeting plan. There is one session this afternoon, this evening for if you are a student or from an academic network, there is a little reception organised, I say running a bit in parallel with other sessions, so you have to pick and choose. On Thursday afternoon, there is a session we are calling Diversity in Tech, where we will ‑‑ we have done this for a few meetings now and the agenda is quite loose, so you can also bring your own ideas and we would like to hear like ‑‑ if you have any ideas on how to increase diversity at the meetings and how you feel more included in the meeting, something that you probably will experience throughout the week, maybe on Thursday you can say well actually it would be really nice if you could also do, you know, something else to include... so that you feel more included. I'd love to hear that.

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And we also have, of course, the RIPE Code of Conduct. Talking about diversity is really important for our community, and this is a summary here on the slide. And you should have registered or clicked a box when you registered, but, in summary, we are here to work together as a community, we want to respect each other and exchange, you know, our ideas and our opinions and tolerate each other and without getting into fights, hopefully.

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There is a link to the Code of Conduct, but you have probably seen that when you registered.

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Should you experience something that you don't really like or you think violates the Code of Conduct or something you really feel uncomfortable with, there are four trusted contacts at the moment in the RIPE community, three of them are here, I don't know if you are all in the room, Vesna is here, she is actually from Serbia, so she speaks the local language and maybe has some information about the city. Lia in the back and Saloumeh in the front they are also here and they will be around during the week and will be recognisable, I don't know, by a little badge or a red T‑shirt or something, but at least you have seen their faces now. Don't hesitate to go talk to them if anything bothers you. You can also come talk to me or Niall if you have any questions or anything that concerns you.

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How to find each other and network with each other? We have a number of tools. The SpacialChat is an online tool that we have started experimenting with during the pandemic and we are still using that mostly for those of you who are joining us online, and so there will always be some RIPE NCC staff and some other RIPE community members in there if you have ‑‑ if you want to hang out during the breaks there.

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We also provide a networking app that you can use on your phone or on your device that has all the meeting information, but also the attendees, and you can also arrange meetings with attendees through that app.
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We also ‑‑ this is all about, you know, not only about working in technical discussions, but it is of course about socialising, that's why we are meeting in person, that's why I am happy we can meet again for the second time after the pandemic, so we organised a number of social events. Almost every day, this time, and thanks to also the local hosts and who organised ‑‑ we have a number of social events organised. I am not going to read them all out, they are all on the website and you can find the information there and hopefully join us there and meet other RIPE community members.

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Here are the BoFs, I already mentioned, there are three today and two tomorrow afternoon. All the topics I think are really interesting and very relevant to our community, so I would definitely try to be at most of them.

There are also some online social events for those of you who are joining us on Meetecho. As I said, on SpacialChat, we are doing some activity there and then there are also be a virtual RIPE dinner which has become a bit of a tradition during the pandemic so we will continue to do that for you.
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Again as I said earlier, we'd love to hear from you and get feedback and get some feedback from you and hear about your experience during the meeting.

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You can follow us on Twitter and also ask us questions there or there is also a survey online that you can use and fill in.

In general, if you have any questions, I mean there are a lot of support desks around here. I still have to find my way around in the hotel, but there is the registration desk where you came in, that's usually staffed by a number of RIPE NCC staff and they have been running a lot of RIPE meetings so they know everything you need to know. There is also RIPE NCC support desk there if you have any questions about RIPE NCC Services, IP addresses, any tickets you might have, if you are a member of the RIPE NCC, you can go there. And if you have any technical problems with your network or your laptop or you can't log in or something doesn't work, there is also a technical support team I believe this way at the end of the hall, but you can also find them if you send a mail to opstg [at] ripe [dot] net ‑ Operations at meeting [at] ripe [dot] net.
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Right. I already mentioned the meet‑and‑greet desk is out there next to the registration desk, if you have any questions you can also find staff there. As I said, I also try to hang out there as much as possible so you can find me there.
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And I think this was the end of my part. I don't know if you have any questions at this stage. We also have some time at the end. I think we are quite good on time. I will give you a minute to think if you want to ask a question. Is there anything going on on Meetecho, Niall? No. Well, maybe then we'll just dive first into the other interesting organisation, the RIPE NCC, and then we'll have sometime at the end for you to have more questions, hopefully.
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HANS PETTER HOLEN: Thank you, Mirjam. And welcome, everybody, to this RIPE meeting. It's the second one after the pandemic, so it's really great to meet in person again. So my name is Hans Petter Holen. I am the managing director of the RIPE NCC, is set up as the secretariat for the RIPE community, was set up by the RIPE community for the RIPE community. It's a membership organisation. It's run by NCC staff so we have around 170 full‑time employees right now, and we have an Executive Board elected by the members that directs me and oversees the organisation. And we do implement the policies set by the community.

So the RIPE NCC has developed some strategic objectives, we did that last year for the five‑year period, and it's first and foremost to support the open, inclusive and engaged RIPE community. We were set up as the secretariat for the RIPE community, we are facilitating that for you.

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The second thing that we are doing is to operate a trusted, efficient, accurate and resilient registry. That is RIPE NCC as the regional Internet registry for Europe, Middle East and central Asia. Now in addition to this, and we are not just a bookkeeper and just a registry, we are also enabling our members and community to operate one secure stable and resilient global Internet. How do we do that? We do a lot of things like this event, we do measuring services and other things that I'll talk to you later on about. And to do so, we need a stable organisation with a robust governance structure, and last but not least, engaged staff that pull this all together.

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So, the registry is what you may know as the RIPE database, you can look it up Whois if you are into command line protocols, or you can use our website to search in the database to see who has registered different Internet resources. We manage that in the internal registry where we allocate and manage Internet number resources via the LIR portal, so Internet number resources, that's IP addresses, v4 and v6s, aut‑num, system numbers, AS numbers.

We investigate hijacks and policy violations because even though the Internet is built on trust and we trust everybody to do the right thing to make the network work, that may have been so in the 70s and 80s, it's not so much so these days so we are looking after this to see that people don't hijack resources and use them without having the right to do so.

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We support and facilitate the policy development process with the community. And also an important part of the registry, is a new technology called RPKI and I'll come back to that in a minute.

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So, more than the registry, we provide information services. So we have RIPEstat, which is kind of a looking glass, an interface into searching in data that we gather from the measurement network, RIPE Atlas, from the RIS where we collect BGP routing updates so you can have a look at what BGP routing looks right now but also what it looked like yesterday or three days ago or even further back.

And we have an IP map that you can use to look at the infrastructure mapped on a sort of traditional geographic map. We also operate K‑root, one of the root‑name servers in DNS, we normally say we do numbers, not names, but we operate part of the infrastructure for the names, the K‑root, which is one of the 13 root name servers and we have more than 60 or 70 instances of that spread across the service region, across the world, to make it massively resilient.

We also have reverse DNS zones, so when you have an IP address and want to know what the domain name, what the points to that, you can look that up in the reverse DNS, and we also offer a secondary service, so that if you have domain names, large domains zone files that you need secondaries for, that's also part of our service to members.

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Now, RPKI. So how many of you know what BGP is?
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Okay, so how many of you have actually configured BGP? Okay, good. How many of you know how to spoof BGP?
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Okay, good.
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How many of you know how to secure your BGP?
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Okay, so some of you. Okay. So, RPKI is an infrastructure to secure the Internet routing system. So if you look at the bottom there, your router, you would set up that the prefix that you have, some addresses, is announced by your AS number and you announce that to the rest of the world. Now, how can somebody else verify that this is done by you so you are not spoofing this? So, at the top here, you can see that you can create an authorised statement for this prefix and you sign that by a digital signature with using private/public keys, and you publish that in a repository. So we both have an RPKI structure where we issue keys to you, so you can sign, and through this trust of chain, everybody else can verify that it's signed by your key, we also have a publication service, the repository, so you can publish where you are signed objects there. You can also delegate this and have it signed up already and if you want to know more about that we have training courses in RPKI, there was just one this morning.

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So, this is one of our most important projects this year, not only on the technical side, but also making the community and the operators aware of this and starting to use it.

So, community engagement. You are all here at the RIPE meeting. We do two of these a year but we do regional events in central Asia and Middle East and southeast Europe. We have done one in Slovenia earlier this year.

We offer training courses, both in person but also e‑learning and we do professional certifications. So you can take an exam and get the certificate afterwards. We do contribute to public policy and Internet governance discussions, and you will see presentations about that later this week, for instance in the cooperation Working Group, what we did at the ITU Board, which ITU is the international telecommunications Union, more than 150 years old and they were used to doing telephony. At this stage they are doing frequency coordinations and satellites and so on, but of course they discuss Internet matters and we are there in order to make sure that whenever they discuss and decide on something, they have factual information and don't go off and do strange things, as you can imagine that governments and traditional telecommunications agencies and companies might do if they don't get proper education.

So that's part of our outreach. The community is not only you engineers, but it's also governments in other regions.

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We publish articles on RIPE Labs, so if you are something interesting to share with the community, you can of course present at the RIPE meeting or any other regional meetings, but you can also publish it on RIPE Labs, which is not only articles we write and publish, but also from the community.

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We also have a community project fund, so if you have an interesting project that needs funding, you can apply for that and it's a committee of community members that decides who will get funds for that.

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Now, in order to manage the RIPE NCC, I have a management team. I have Felipe as the chief operations officer, responsible for the registry and software engineering around the Registry Services. Kaveh, chief information officer, Hisham, who is the chief community officer, who is taking care of all the community engagement and public public policy interactions and all the outreach. I mean had we been a sales organisation, this would have been a chief commercial officer, but we don't do sales, we are a membership organisation, you all pay a membership fee that funds all our services.
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New for this year is my chief security office, Eleonora, and she is basically now the signing and implementing a security programme across all of the RIPE NCC, we have a pretty good security awareness internally ourselves, but we have an increasing drive from our members into actually documenting this as well, so be able to document through certifications and so on, is something that's on our radar for the coming years.
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Chief legal officer, Athina; HR director, Carolien, Simon‑Jan, finance director; and then last but not least, Daniella, my executive assistant, that makes sure that all of us are coordinated and organised.

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I mentioned the Executive Board. We have job Snijders, Remco, Maria Hall, Christian Kaufmann, Ondrej Filip, Raymond Jetten and Piotr Strzyzewski.

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The service desk has already been mentioned. We have staff here available to help you. There is also a virtual SpacialChat room that you can contact them on, well if you are on site you probably want to go and talk to them, right?
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And this is your one‑stop hub for anything related to RIPE NCC. And they really mean it.

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General Meeting:
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That's on Wednesday, that's for members only. So you need to register separately for that. So, make sure that you do that well ahead of time. And the voting for the resolutions that's on the agenda there can be done electronically over the two days. So even remote participants can vote here. And if you have any questions, mail agm [at] ripe [dot] net and you can see the URL for the meeting at the bottom there.

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Then, I talked a bit about policy development and then I'll hand over to Angela or policy development officer, so Angela, welcome.

ANGELA DALL'ARA: Thank you, and good morning also from me, and welcome to your first RIPE meeting. Not everybody is the first one. I am Angela Dall'Ara, I am the policy officer at the RIPE NCC. You heard a lot about policy development, Working Groups, mailing lists and so on. So I think you have already clear with the difference between the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC. So probably you already understood that you are already part of the RIPE community also before today, and so my first message to you is please use this opportunity to participate, to contribute to the discussions, and to offer your support for good working of the Internet. Because we have a different kind of network operators, everybody has their own necessities and expectations from the RIPE NCC, from the way in which addresses are distributed, in which the ‑‑ in the way in which the contacts and the database is offering information. So, this is really an opportunity that I invite you to use for participating in policy discussions.

So, again, it is very easy to participate. We have different Working Groups, each one of them can respond to your interests and you want to follow what is happening and the discussions that are going on there, so please subscribe to the mailing list, also because on the mailing list the discussion of the policy group is that location is the only one location where opinion can be kept in consideration and considered for what we call consensus, so you will hear more about consensus I think during the policy discussions, but probably it's in your system that you are not used to define if there is an agreement on a certain policy proposal or on certain decisions, so it doesn't happen very often that you can directly express yourself, express, you know, you do not have to rely to an intermediate person to say what you want to say, so my warm invite is: Please subscribe, say what you think. If you have a good idea, everybody can submit a policy proposal. You can have a good idea for something new, you can also see something in the current policies that is not really what you would like to have, and from your side of the business, you see that it's not responding to your needs and then you can submit a proposal for a modification to the mailing list.

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So, my role in this is to be the link between the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC. You have to imagine that the RIPE NCC Registration Services is using the policies to evaluate all the requests that we receive, so it is important that we have clear policies, that they give a clear guideline to the staff and for you to obtain your IP addresses, to know how ‑‑ what kind of ranges you can use for what and so on.

So again, it's important that everybody participates because good ideas are always useful.

We have, at the moment, two policy proposals under discussion. One is we have a PDP, policy development process, that is a well‑established process, and has been recently reviewed by the RIPE Chair team in cooperation with all the RIPE community, and the policy development process goes in phases. So, we have one new, really fresh proposal in the Address Policy Working Group that is regarding the registration of IPv4 assignments in the database. At the moment, those are mandatory, whenever you have an allocation and you use those addresses you are supposed to ‑‑ not supposed to, you are requested to register assignments and this proposal is suggesting to make it optional in some cases.

So I invite you to have a look at the Address Policy mailing list, and say what you think, if it is a good idea. And this proposal will be presented in the Address Policy Working Group session on Wednesday.

It is in the discussion phase, so please discuss it.

And the second proposal that we have is in the Database Working Group, is regarding the registration of personal data in the RIPE database. At the moment, we cannot register personal data, and when I talk about personal data, I am talking about names, telephone numbers, mail addresses and fax numbers and so on, and this proposal is aiming at changing the possibility to register personal data in the RIPE database. So this is affecting every user of the database. They say who is registering contacts and who is looking for contacts in the RIPE database. That is in review phase and present in the Database Working Group. I don't remember if it's on Thursday ‑‑ forgive me, you have the plan.

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So, if you have a good idea, if you have, you know, you would like to propose something and you don't know where to start, here is your lady. Come to me. Or you can also contact the Working Group Chairs for each Working Group. And they will help you to, also to find out if this proposal has been proposed in the past or if there are some constraints, and the same thing I can do for you. So do not be shy. Just approach me or approach the Working Group Chairs, and we will be very happy to work with you on this.

So, I don't know if you understood that I am inviting you to participate, participate discuss and contribute to the discussions.

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And from this, I leave the floor to Mirjam for the last part. And it is here.

MIRJAM KUHNE: Thanks, Angela. That function is really important, that link between the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC, so thanks for explaining that.

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Again, we have ‑‑ actually now, I am a bit confused, this is a new slide because this is a new service that the RIPE NCC has just provided, just developed over the last few weeks and launched. You can go to forum.ripe.net, you can find already some interesting topics discussed there, or started there, and that's ‑‑ as I said earlier, most are using mailing lists but we're starting to use other channels as well. These are mostly for NCC Services, but they are also some topics about RIPE 85 to coordinate some side activities, for instance.

Okay, and are there any questions now? After all this information that we dumped on you, it's a lot of information to take in, I am sure, at the beginning of a meeting.

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If you have no questions, do we have any questions? No, I mean ‑‑ from online there are no questions, but is there a quiz? There is. So I should get off the stage and let the quizmaster do his job.

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I don't hear him. I am looking at the tech team. Is something happening? The idea is, we have a fun quiz for you. I think something is happening.

GERARDO VIVIERS: Yeah, it's happening: The little cable is a little bit tight but I think I am in here now, so...
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Welcome, everybody, to our RIPE 85 newcomers Kahoot quiz.

My name is Gerardo Viviers, we are broadcasting today ‑‑ a moment that fully happens once in a lifetime. The moment you get to play this quiz. When you sign up, remember to put your registration number in, your nickname for a chance to win the prize. The goal of the quiz is to let you check your knowledge.

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Let's see how much you remember from everything that have said. And there was a lot of it said. So, now, let me tell you how we are going to play this game.

There is going to be about 12 questions about everything that has been talked about here during this presentation, and I am going to show you four possible answers and the person who clicks on the right answer the fastest gets the most points. And at the end of the whole thing, we will see who has the most points.

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And the person with the most points of course comes in place number 1. So, while people are signing up... we're going to wait a little bit. Play some little sounds... and everybody has been logged in, we're going to start it up. Remember to put your registration number, the one you got when you signed up if you want to qualify for the prize.

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We'll try to find you if we can, and if we can't... tough luck!
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We have 71, 72, maybe we'll reach 85. The quiz for RIPE 85 has 85 people. One of you dropped out and I think it's time to start!
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Let's go!
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Let's see, for the first question, starting in 3, 2, 1!
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You need to become a member to join the RIPE NCC, Hell's Angels, the RIPE meeting or the RIPE NCC?
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And the right answer is the RIPE NCC!
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So, this is the leaderboard.

Next question: Who is the RIPE Chair? Is it Niall O'Reilly, the RIPE Chair team, is it Hans Petter Holen or Mirjam Kuhne?
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This question is very difficult, I could not answer it myself, but who is the RIPE Chair?
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And the right answer is, of course, Mirjam Kuhne!
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Leaderboard!
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Onto the next question: Which of these came first? By this I mean Voyager 2 closest to Neptune, the first working worldwide web browser, RIPE 1 or the fall of the Berlin Wall? You will never guess which of these came first.

And of course the answer is RIPE 1!
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Leaderboard!
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Next question:
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True or false: Working Groups discuss RIPE policies on mailing lists? Is this true or false?
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This is a very difficult question. I think I haven't understood anything of what Angela said. So
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The answer is: True!
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You can talk about everything else outside, but it only happening on the mailing lists.

Leaderboard!
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Next question: What does the RIPE PC do?
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The answer is: Choose the presentations for the RIPE meeting Plenary sessions. That is what the RIPE PC does. Now you know it.

Onto the next question.
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The scoreboard, let's check it!
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Next question is: Who makes RIPE policies?
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Is it the RIPE NCC, is it RIPE, is it IETF or why should I care? Which is also a valid question, but I think I will answer that for you.

The answer is: The RIPE community. Why should you had care? Because they affect you.

Onto the scoreboard...
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Question number 7: Where can you find the RIPE NCC support desk?
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Is it in SpatialChat, is it on Facebook, is it in Snapchat or in the coffee break area?
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So, the answer is: SpatialChat and in the coffee break area. Yes, if you need the support, you'll find them there.

The scoreboard...
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Question number 8: What does NCC stand for?
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Network Coordination Centre?
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If you don't know the answer, just press randomly, they are all funny except the right answer of course.

And the right answer is: Network Coordination Centre. That is what NCC stands for.
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Leaderboard.

Next question: Who implements the RIPE policies?
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Is it the RIPE NCC, the RIPE Chair, is it everybody or is it the RIPE community?
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The answer is: The RIPE NCC.
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Leaderboard...
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Question number 10: Which of these is not a RIPE Working Group?
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Is it the big data, IoT, DNS or open source?
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One of these is not a RIPE Working Group, and if you paid attention, you'll find out.

The answer is: Big Data.

Scoreboard...
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Question number 11, and there are two left:
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Does RIPE have a Secret Working Group?
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The options are: What is a working group? If it's a secret, we would never tell; there are no he secrets; there is no such Working Group.

Of course, now the quizmaster must die.

So the answer is: If it's a secret, we would never tell.

The leaderboard is...
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And on to the last question:
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Which organisation was the first regional Internet registry? Was it ARIN, ICANN, the RIPE NCC or InterNIC?
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The answer is: RIPE NCC. This was the first Internet registry ever.

The scoreboard!
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Who is coming in at number 3? Number 2 and number 1.

The winner is Wt72 with 12 out of 12 correct answers. Unbelievable.

Now, people, we hope you had fun. Thank you, everyone, for playing, and enjoy RIPE 85, and remember, a day where you did not learn something is a day lost.

Until the next time!
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HANS PETTER HOLEN: And that was it. Unless there are any questions, you can all go for lunch. So any questions?
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So thank you.

(Applause)

LIVE CAPTIONING BY
MARY McKEON, RMR, CRR, CBC
DUBLIN, IRELAND.